Hello! I’m pleased to play with you all!
I’ve played a fair bit less recently, especially for this being my home website – rolemadness is something I grew somewhat old of. It’s been a hot minute, but this is a good crowd. It makes me happy to see some
fresh meat new faces here, I hope you have a fun time and maybe even stick around! But that’s a bit premature.
I’d like to talk about myself for a bit before I continue with this pre-written post. Partially for the people who know me, because I do intend on playing very differently to how I normally do and would like to emphasize that, but also because I’d like to sort-of introduce myself to the newer crowd.
I’m known as quite a high poster, frequently hitting over 1000 posts in a game, and very rarely not hitting 100 posts per day phase. I, admittedly, don’t think “double digits this game” is realistic for me. I’m also quite a chaotic player, and while I do intend on not showing too much of that this game, it’s not unlikely to come out a bit. Why is this important?
Well, I’m assuming that a couple of the newer players here are from Throne of Lies – and the general metagame there is pretty different to here. This is for a lot of reasons, but the biggest differences betwen here and there are pretty evident if you read [The Classcard Thread]**(New Forum of Lies: Classcards (Now officially official)) and Feedback List. I STRONGLY recommend EVERYBODY here read these, ESPECIALLY if you randed Cult, Unseen, or Neutral; you’ll need to know how to fakeclaim. We have significantly less feedback, and our classes are a fair bit different. The terminology differs at times too, what you know as “occupies” are considered “roleblocks”, for example. What this results in is a game that of more common scumtells you’d find in Throne of Lies don’t really work to the same effectivenes, if at all.
The self-anecdote is mostly because in ToL, fakeclaiming is seen as something that Blue Dragon essentially never do, except maybe as like… Prince or Mystic. Someone who can get away with it, but even then it’s pretty frowned upon. In Forum Mafia, while it’s not like… something you should do, there are times and places for it. I personally wouldn’t recommend doing it, especially without reason. I, however, am a hypocrite.
Some other things that might be considered bad in ToL but are less so here:
- Being the second or third of a claim
- Being a Knight claim
- Being a Princess claim
- Being a nonclaimer
If it’s not clear, this game is a lot less focused on claims, as such things like claimtrain and openclaiming Princes are significantly less common! (not really unheard of, though)
In fact, claiming is generally just risky. I’d advise being careful with it.
In an Unseen game, there is a 50% chance that the Baron spawns; which has an ability that allows them to either kill players if they’ve claimed (in cases they have Royal Blood) or roleblock them for two nights (if they don’t have Royal Blood) – and the Assassin is passively able to enhance their kills to bypass various protections and investigations. This ignores the fact that the Mastermind can roleblock, and various converts have abilities that can make your life difficult if you’re deemed a target and they know how to handle you.
In a Cult game, there’s less direct counterplay, a Seeker can permanently frame you, and an Acolyte can strongman (bypassing everything) kill you if there’s exactly 2 Cult alive. In exchange, they have a lot more conversion power.
Regardless of the faction that spawned, the Prince should try even harder to not claim. While they’re not an insane powerhouse like they are in ToL, they’re still incredibly strong, and not only do they get attacked upon conversion attempt – both factions have tools (the Unseen several, the Cult a few less) to kill a Prince, even if it’s claimed. This isn’t ToL – Prince doesn’t claim D1 and survive until N6 because there’s two Physicians, a Knight, and an Alchemist roleplaying as a Physician.
Finally, and this is very important: THERE IS NO STARTING KING. King elections happen on Day 2, are done entirely privately (you don’t step up for King, you just get voted), and both Cult and Unseen Kings will keep the abilities of the class they were kinged from, while gaining the benefits of being kinged. This means you can have a Cult Leader king, who cannot be roleblocked, redirected, tracked, has a tiebreaking vote, and gets a free kill in Order Execution (all of which any first king gets). Because of this, the King election is extremely important.
I probably have more mechanical stuff to say, but this post is already really long. Don’t worry, I won’t post like this all game, but I think it’s important to have everybody on the same page, and frankly more fun that way. So I’ll spitball a few other points just to end this.
- Mechanics are a LOT less reliable here than in ToL. There are a lot of effects that manipulate your results, so be careful with them.
- This also means that if someone claims to have healed X on a night X died, this doesn’t mean that they’re immediately fake. Again, there’s a lot of potential manipulation at play.
- In an Unseen game, there are only two successful conversions ever, the second is locked to N4 or later. Unlike ToL, the starting Assassin(or Baron) won’t immediately replace them.
- The only two ways to replace a Mastermind here are if they die before successfully converting anybody once, or if an Aristocrat bounties them the night before they are executed. In this case, the second conversion is unlocked on Night 5, not 4.
- However, in a Cult game, there can be several conversions. It works pretty much the same as in ToL – 4 Cultists max, 1 night cooldown between convert attempts, Cult Leaders are replacable.
- Bleeds are actually quite rare. Hunter (1x), Assassin (1x), Poacher (1x), and Cult Leader (1x each) are the only classes with real bleeds, whereas fake bleeds are just about as common: Mastermind (2x), Herbalist (1x), Acolyte (2x). Basically, in an Unseen game, bleeds are rare, in Cult games they’re more common.
- On the topic of bleeds, if you are immune to bleeding, you will not be told you were bled! However, the only classes that are immune to being bled are Noble/Aristocrat after successfully bountying a Support class, so. Pretty rare.
…okay, that’s all! For real this time!
Most of this was written pre-rand, and I’d write it regardless of what class I was to ensure this game goes as well as possible! If anyone read the entire thing, I hope it helps you, if you don’t want to read the whole thing, then I’d recommend you read the last bullet points and the two links near the red text!