[SFM] Va-11 Hall-A Greatest Idea - Sign Up Thread


Greatest Idea Mafia is a semi-open setup designed to be flexible while adding quite a few extra layers of WIFOM and a creative UPick-esque role choice aspect.


  • Pre-game is 24 hours, Day is 48 hours, Night is 24 hours.
  • In this setup, each player is dealt three cards from a deck (shown below for convenience).
  • Two of these three cards are combined to produce the player’s role and alignment (more on this below) and the final card is discarded.
  • Two cards must be used, so no player may choose a single card to indicate both role and alignment.
  • Once every player has chosen their two cards, all players inform the moderator of their role/alignment combination and any roles with partners are informed of their partners.
  • At the start of Day 1, every player’s discarded card is publicly revealed.
  • If a player does not pick their role combination, I’ll randomly sort it out.
  • Roles are assigned to players via the Random.org List Randomizer.
  • Post minimum is 20*day. However if your faction members complain that you are inactive you’ll be proded earlier. After a prod you have 24 hours to answer before a replacement is sought.
  • There is no Day 1 lynch.
  • Votes are both majority and plurality.
  • Balance is explicitly not guaranteed.
  • Alts allowed.


Because of the special “choose 2” mechanic, many new and bastard roles are possible given certain role combinations.

Non-town Innocent Children and Masons of different alignments may not spawn.

Greatest Idea Modifications

Different from traditional Greatest Idea, read with care

  • If only one Mason or Lover is chosen, then they are essentially a named Vanilla Townie.
  • If more than 2 Masons or Lovers are chosen, then all the Masons and Lovers form separated pairs.
  • The One-Shot PGO is manually activated.
  • I’ll only run setups that start with at least 50% Town roles
  • The Alien faction has only an one-shot factional nightkill for the whole game.
  • The Innocent Child can choose to reveal itself at whatever moment it chooses. It is not revealed automatically at the start of Day 1.
  • The Enabler affects one randomly mod-selected other player. If the Enabler dies, its Enablee can no longer use any role powers other than a factional nightkill.
  • In Greatest Idea games, Judas and Saulus’s alignment-change-on-elimination powers are an ALIGNMENT effect, not an ABILITY. Think of the card as ‘Vanilla Judas’ and ‘Vanilla Saulus’.

Role List

  1. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  2. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  3. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  4. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  5. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  6. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  7. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  8. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  9. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  10. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  11. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  12. Town Vanilla (No abilities)
  13. Town Watcher
  14. Town Tracker
  15. Town Tracker
  16. Town Cop (Gets results “mafia” or “not mafia”)
  17. Town Cop (Gets results “mafia” or “not mafia”)
  18. Town Lover Cop
  19. Town Seer (Gets results “werewolf” or “not werewolf”)
  20. Town Seer (Gets results “werewolf” or “not werewolf”)
  21. Town FBI Agent (Gets results “serial killer” or “not serial killer”)
  22. Town Doctor
  23. Town Doctor
  24. Town Roleblocker
  25. Town Jailkeeper (Protect target from kills, roleblocks target)
  26. Town Bodyguard (Does not attack the attacker)
  27. Town Vigilante (Does not have guilt)
  28. Town One-shot Vigilante (Does not have guilt)
  29. Town One-shot Dayvig (Shoots only at day)
  30. Town One-shot Dayvig (Shoots only at day)
  31. Town Compulsive Childkiller (Daykills any revealed Innocent Children)
  32. Town Bulletproof (Immune to nightkills)
  33. Town Supersaint (Kills the hammer vote when lynched)
  34. Town One-shot PGO (Can choose if they will PGO or not on a given night)
  35. Town Mason
  36. Town Mason
  37. Town Mason
  38. Town Mason
  39. Town Mason Doctor
  40. Town Mason Lover
  41. Town Lover
  42. Town Lover
  43. Town Lover
  44. Town JOAT (One Roleblock, One Cop, One Doctor)
  45. Town Vengeful (Can choose who to kill upon lynch)
  46. Town Retired Werewolf Hunter (Named townie)
  47. Town Retired Marine (Immune to Serial Killer kills)
  48. Town Miller (Investigates as Mafia)
  49. Town Hirsute (Investigates as Werewolf)
  50. Town Evangelistic (Investigates as Cult)
  51. Town Tentacled (Investigates as Alien)
  52. Town Watchlisted (Investigates as Serial Killer)
  53. Town Universal Miller (Investigates as all scum alignments)
  54. Town Black Goo (Anyone who targets it becomes Cult)
  55. Town Ascetic (Immune to all night visits except kills)
  56. Town Private Investigator (Gets results “cult” or “not cult”)
  57. Town Gravedigger (Always shown as visiting a target on the night of their death)
  58. Town Nymphomaniac (Compulsively chooses a Lover on Night 1)
  59. Town One-shot Governor (Can stop lynches)
  60. Town One-shot Prince (Can’t be lynched)
  61. Town Godfather (Investigates as Town)
  62. Town IC
  63. Town Hider
  64. Town Enabler (Assigned to a random player, upon death that player loses their night action)
  65. Town Treestump (Can’t vote)
  66. Town Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result “Alien” or “Not Alien”; investigates as “Alien”)
  67. Town Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result “Alien” or “Not Alien”; investigates as “Alien”)
  68. Town Conspiracy Theorist (Gets result “Alien” or “Not Alien”; investigates as “Alien”)
  69. Town One-shot Kingmaker (Chosen player becomes One-shot King, Kings override lynches)
  70. Town Weak Jailkeeper (Dies when jail scum)
  71. Town Bloodhound (Gets result “Town” or “Not Town”)
  72. Town Vanilla Cop (Detects if someone is a Vanilla/Goon or not)
  73. Town Hero (If a King tries to execute you, the King dies instead)
  74. Town Tourist (Compulsively targets someone every night. No effect)
  75. Town Backup Doctor
  76. Town One-shot Commuter (Immune to night actions)
  77. Town Cop-of-all-Trades (One-shot Cop, One-shot Seer, One-shot FBI Agent, One-shot Conspiracy Theorist, One-shot Private Investigator)
  78. Town One-shot Gladiator (Target a player at night; if both alive at daybreak, they are the only two elimination candidates that day)
  79. Town Persona Non Grata (If you are eliminated, any and all Condemners immediately win)
  80. Town Psychiatrist (Target someone each night, if they are an SK they will become a Vanilla Townie)
  81. Town Reloader (Target someone each night, if they have previously used a one-shot ability they regain their shot)
  82. Town Fruit Vendor (Target someone each night. They will be told that they received fruit)
  83. Town Parrot Role (Target someone each night. If they have an active ability, you use that ability on them)
  84. Judas Vanilla
  85. Saulus Goon
  86. One-shot Townie Vanilla (If alive at the start of Day 2, turns into a Survivor)
  87. Underdog Vanilla (When the first Day death occurs, adopts the alignment of the dead player. Starts as Survivor)
  88. Mafia Goon
  89. Mafia Goon
  90. Mafia Goon
  91. Mafia Goon
  92. Mafia Goon
  93. Mafia Godfather
  94. Mafia Tracker
  95. Mafia Doctor
  96. Mafia Roleblocker
  97. Mafia Lover
  98. Mafia Seer
  99. Mafia One-shot Dayvig
  100. Mafia One-shot Governor (Can stop lynches)
  101. Mafia Strongman
  102. Mafia Reflexive Doctor
  103. Mafia Hirsute Goon
  104. Mafia Cupid (Targets player Night 1; all OTHER players who targeted same player become Lovers with target)
  105. Mafia Alpha Goon
  106. Mafia Compulsive Hider
  107. Mafia Fruit Vendor
  108. Werewolf Goon
  109. Werewolf Goon
  110. Werewolf Goon
  111. Werewolf Goon
  112. Werewolf Alpha (investigates as Not Werewolf)
  113. Werewolf Roleblocker
  114. Werewolf One-shot Bulletproof
  115. Werewolf Cop
  116. Werewolf Mason
  117. Werewolf Watcher
  118. Werewolf FBI Agent
  119. Werewolf Ninja
  120. Werewolf One-shot PGO
  121. Werewolf Miller (investigates as Mafia)
  122. Werewolf Supersaint
  123. Werewolf Godfather
  124. Werewolf Gravedigger
  125. Werewolf Parrot
  126. Alien One-shot Prince
  127. Alien Prober
  128. Alien Vanillaiser
  129. Alien Silencer
  130. Bulletproof Alien Lover
  131. Alien Psychotrooper (While alive, all cops with ‘guilty/not guilty’ format results are Insane)
  132. Alien Mass One-shot Redirector (Once per game, choose a player at night. All actions are redirected to that player that night)
  133. Alien Bloodsucker (Treestump someone at night. No Alien may perform the factional nightkill on the same night that you do this)
  134. Alien Sympathiser (If there are (faction) in the game, you are an (faction) goon. If there are no other (faction), you are a VT.)
  135. Survivor Vanilla
  136. Survivor Compulsive Bodyguard
  137. Survivor Mason
  138. Condemner Vanilla (target above in playerlist)
  139. Condemner Vanilla (target below in playerlist)
  140. Serial Killer Two-shot Bulletproof
  141. Serial Killer Immune to Mafia kills
  142. Serial Killer Immune to Werewolf kills
  143. Serial Killer Immune to Alien killls
  144. One-shot Cult Recruiter
  145. Cult One-shot Goomaker (Once per game, at night, target someone to make them take on Black Goo ability)
  146. Wild Card (No alignment. After discards are revealed, discard the Wild Card and draw one new role which you must keep)

Classcard Example



Town Vanilla

Your only abilities are your power and vote.
Defeat the Mafia, Werewolves, Aliens, Cult, Serial Killers, and any Condemners with Town targets.

Flavor List

Upon joining this game, please specify which character you want as flavor. If you don’t, you’ll be given flavor at mod’s choice from this list. Flavor is not alignment or role-indicative.

  • *Kira* Miki
  • Alma Armas
  • Anna Graem
  • Art von Delay
  • Beatrice Albert
  • Dana Zane
  • Deal
  • Donovan D. Dawson
  • Dorothy Haze
  • Gabriella
  • Gillian
  • Ingram McDougal
  • Jamie
  • Julianne Stingray
  • Kimberly La Vallete
  • Lenore
  • Lexi Rivers
  • Mario
  • Norma
  • Rad Shiba
  • Sei Asagari
  • Stella Hoshii
  • Taylor
  • Virgilio Armandio

Player List

  1. Eli (Streaming-Chan)
  2. Min (Dorothy)
  3. Cloned (DDD)
  4. Ghana (Mario)
  5. an_Gorta_pratai (Random)
  6. Apprentice (Deal)
  7. Ami (Dana Zane)
  8. TrustyworthyL (Kira Miki)
  9. ATN (Random)
  10. Surge (Gilligan)
  11. Whys (Juli Stingray)
  12. ArcticXI (Random)
  13. Amelia (Rad Shiba)
  14. CRich (Virgilio)
  15. Light (Anna Grahem)
  16. Eevee (Nacho Tumbleweed)
  17. Soulshade5rr (Random)
  18. Wiisp (Stella Hoshii)
  19. Tsumugi-Shirogane (Sei P. Asagiri)


  1. Jane (informed)
  2. Arete (informed)
  3. Intensify (uninformed)
  4. thepigeonnyc (informed)
  5. Conduit (informed)
  6. DatBird (informed)
  7. TBE (uninformed)
  8. Wazza (informed)
  9. Centuries (informed)


  1. Marshal
  2. Napoleon
  3. Chloe
  4. Katze
  5. Trochilidae


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oh god its actually happening

/Uninformed cat

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yeah the sunflowers have been doing those rebelly things for months but we got all under control now

According to all known laws
of aviation,

there is no way a bee
should be able to fly.

Its wings are too small to get
its fat little body off the ground.

The bee, of course, flies anyway

because bees don’t care
what humans think is impossible.

Yellow, black. Yellow, black.
Yellow, black. Yellow, black.

Ooh, black and yellow!
Let’s shake it up a little.

Barry! Breakfast is ready!


Hang on a second.


  • Barry?

  • Adam?

  • Oan you believe this is happening?

  • I can’t. I’ll pick you up.

Looking sharp.

Use the stairs. Your father
paid good money for those.

Sorry. I’m excited.

Here’s the graduate.
We’re very proud of you, son.

A perfect report card, /in’s. @Mercenary

Very proud.

Ma! I got a thing going here.

  • You got lint on your fuzz.

  • Ow! That’s me!

  • Wave to us! We’ll be in row 118,000.

  • Bye!

Barry, I told you,
stop flying in the house!

  • Hey, Adam.

  • Hey, Barry.

  • Is that fuzz gel?

  • A little. Special day, graduation.

Never thought I’d make it.

Three days grade school,
three days high school.

Those were awkward.

Three days college. I’m glad I took
a day and hitchhiked around the hive.

You did come back different.

  • Hi, Barry.

  • Artie, growing a mustache? Looks good.

  • Hear about Frankie?

  • Yeah.

  • You going to the funeral?

  • No, I’m not going.

Everybody knows,
sting someone, you die.

Don’t waste it on a squirrel.
Such a hothead.

I guess he could have
just gotten out of the way.

I love this incorporating
an amusement park into our day.

That’s why we don’t need vacations.

Boy, quite a bit of pomp…
under the circumstances.

  • Well, Adam, today we are men.

  • We are!

  • Bee-men.

  • Amen!


Students, faculty, distinguished bees,

please welcome Dean Buzzwell.

Welcome, New Hive Oity
graduating class of…


That concludes our ceremonies.

And begins your career
at Honex Industries!

Will we pick ourjob today?

I heard it’s just orientation.

Heads up! Here we go.

Keep your hands and antennas
inside the tram at all times.

  • Wonder what it’ll be like?
  • A little scary.

Welcome to Honex,
a division of Honesco

and a part of the Hexagon Group.

This is it!



We know that you, as a bee,
have worked your whole life

to get to the point where you
can work for your whole life.

Honey begins when our valiant Pollen
Jocks bring the nectar to the hive.

Our top-secret formula

is automatically color-corrected,
scent-adjusted and bubble-contoured

into this soothing sweet syrup

with its distinctive
golden glow you know as…


  • That girl was hot.

  • She’s my cousin!

  • She is?

  • Yes, we’re all cousins.

  • Right. You’re right.

  • At Honex, we constantly strive

to improve every aspect
of bee existence.

These bees are stress-testing
a new helmet technology.

  • What do you think he makes?
  • Not enough.

Here we have our latest advancement,
the Krelman.

  • What does that do?
  • Oatches that little strand of honey
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I have no idea what 90% of these roles mean.

This should be fun to read.


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this is my flavor now





i have no idea who any of these people are so im gonna pick mario

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/informed spec

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my brain exploded reading this

/informed spec

/in give me any flavor that suits me

/in as DDD


  • Donovan D. Dawson

oh god, which has more meme value, M A R I O T I M E or doge which do i go for

/in as Dana Zane


/in as Mario

fuck whatever flavor Vallhalla has, I’m playing this game as Mario the Plumber :stuck_out_tongue: